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live from the Taipei Music center in
Taiwan. This is Nvidia GTC live at
Computex. The eyes of the tech world are
on Taipei as thousands gather at
Computex, one of the world's largest
showcases in the industry with a focus
on AI and robotics, nextgen tech, and
future
mobility. This year, Nvidia's founder
and CEO, Jensen Huang, will open the
conference with his signatures keynote
address.
Until then, we've gathered some of the
brightest minds and biggest names in
tech to discuss the company's past,
present, and
future. The stage is set, the lights are
bright. It's time for Nvidia GTC Live at
Computex.
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Hi, I'm Ben Ritz. And I'm Brady Wong.
Brady, I'm really excited to be here
because as an equity analyst who closely
covers Nvidia, Melius Research in New
York, I know that the tech community
along with investors are looking forward
to hear how Jensen and his team are
driving the AI revolution forward. You
know, the products and initiatives
announced here set the course for the AI
market, not only in terms of chips, but
they also draw attention to an entire
ecosystem that drives the creation of
real world applications that can use the
technology. You know, you can sense
here, Brady, a lot of excitement around
autonomous AI agents, physical AI, which
is led by robotics, and advancements in
amazing reasoning models, which really
are just still moving at a breakneck
speed. So, with that, I want to turn to
my co-host, Brady. You're from Taipei.
What does this mean, Computex mean to
the community here? Yeah. Hi everyone.
I'm Brady Wong from Counterpoint and I'm
excited to have you here in my hometown,
Taipei,
Taiwan, Taipei, Taiwan. We are at
Computex, a huge tech event that started
back to the
1981. Over the years, it has become one
of the most important stages for
showcasing new
technologies. Now, it's pressing
stronger focus on AI and how it's
shaping the future. It's a gathering
point for the global tech communities
where ideas are shared and innovation
takes off.
This year, GTC Taipei kick off as one of
the first key event at Computex, setting
the tone for the week
ahead. Thank you for joining us and
let's dive to the exciting world of tech
GTC Taipei at
Computex. Well, as you can see, guests
are filing into the
venue and you can see that behind us.
But uh the as the anticipation builds
for Jensen's big keynote which is coming
up soon. But today in our pregame show,
we're going to explore three chapters of
Nvidia's story that showcases how it
remains at the center of critical
partnerships across Taiwan. To that end,
some of Taiwan's and the world's most
important companies are joining us to
set the table for Jensen's big keynote,
sharing their unique perspectives and
histories from the front lines of AI
innovation. So right now, let's take a
look at how Nvidia's humble beginnings
grew into something that is changing the
world at a remarkable pace.
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This is now a quality day here.
To help us kick off today's
conversations is someone I've known for
over 20 years, Jeff Clark, the COO and
vice chairman of Dell, a company I
actually cover as an equity analyst as
well. So, you're near and dear to my
heart. And joining Jeff is the Dr. Y
executive vice president and the
courtship chip operating office at TSMC.
Welcome. Thank you. Thanks for having
us. Great to see you. So Jeff, I was
hoping you could tell us quickly why
you're here in Taipei. Well, real
simple. Jensen asked me, which is no
small task given we have Dell
Technologies World kicking off in a few
hours in the United States. But how
could you say no? Yeah. He's got a way
with people, right? He does. Yeah. Well,
you know, maybe Jeff, uh, you can walk
us through your take on the evolution of
Dell's partnership with Nvidia, starting
from the early days, the gaming card
integration, all the way to these
complex full stack AI systems where
you're generating billions of revenue
together. Sure. I was thinking about
when the fir the first time I met
Jensen, which best of my recollection is
early
1996 back in the day when 3D graphics
was really making its inroads inside the
PC industry and we started our inter
engagement with Nvidia. If I recall
correctly, it was our dimension desktop.
It was the Reva 128. We put it on the
map and the rest is sort of history. We
were on the back cover of PC Mag which
back in those days meant something where
that was a real piece of marketing
collateral that drove demand uh
performance leadership and from that
very point we've had a very close
partnership with Nvidia. We've had many
first to markets many performance
leadership products breaking into new
markets like the professional
workstation market uh that we entered in
1997. We entered with Jensen and his uh
platforms and products shortly
thereafter with what was became the
Quadro product line the professional
graphics. We've been doing work uh I
think deep level collaboration for again
many many years that led our way to
GPGPUs led our way to ultimately the
things that we're building today and
ultimately to the partnership that I'm
trying to show showcase here today. the
Dell AAI factory with Nvidia, which is
ultimately a deeply integrated system
and taking the pursuit of accelerated
computing and the architectural
transformation that's underway today,
working together and doing things that
were near impossible just a handful of
years ago. I love that shirt. I do too.
Yeah, you got the Texas logo on the arm.
It's good.
Hi, I YJ I believe TSMC and Nvidia has
been working for a long time and both
share the same engineing background
background and also have very high
commitment to the qualities. So what do
you remember about the early days of
working together with Nvidia and what
made the partnership so special? Yeah, I
think the uh unique partnership between
Nvidia and TSMC began in 1997 when our
founder Dr. Morris Chan uh personally
reached out to Jensen Huang in response
to his request for Foundry service and
after initial connection we have worked
together cultivate a very deep and
enduring uh collaboration and Nvidia's
first product as uh Jeff also mentioned
the river 128 and also river TNT a star
production in TSMC at that time in
TSMC's is a newly uh I established age
feep fab 12 actually at that time I was
uh feed 12's engineering manager
responsible for the quality and yield of
that particular product so since that
until two 1997 to
2017 yeah I think TSNC has delivered
over six million 12 in equipment wafer
to Nvidia I think the number grows and
but we won't be able to relieve the the
new number because it's not the public
information. However, it's obviously
that TSMC and video will grow together
and we are thrilled by the remarkable
achievement that DVA has achieved become
the global $3 trillion industry leader.
Wonderful. Yeah. 1997. Yeah. Last year I
I joined TSMC but I lived five years
after five years. Oh, okay. Yeah. Well,
YJ, really good to see you. Well, it's a
legendary partnership that you have with
Nvidia. It's it's amazing. Um, how's the
technical collaboration changed over the
years? Was there ever a time where in
you had to tell Nvidia to change course
or vice versa, they had to tell you?
Yeah, I think uh my my major engagements
with
Nvidia start from uh when I engaged with
Joe Greco, senior vice president of
Nvidia advanced technology team and uh
starting when we are doing the
development of 28 nanometer technology
and since that we have driven the uh the
limit of innovation today to three or
two nanometer TSMC's most advanced
technology as as well as our most
advanced packaging coas uh the SOIC 3D
dice stacking technology. I think Nvidia
is always has the most challenging
product with largest die size very
difficult to manufacture require the
highest standard of quality and yield
and uh but uh however we we work
together very well and closely and also
we are always uh media is amazing
customer of TSMC and constant deliver
revolutional product to the world
through TSM. MC's uh uh foundry
manufacturing
service and uh at the beginning we are
just a partner on product design and uh
man manufacturing service but now we
work together very deep in technology
collaboration and development beyond the
what we call the design design for
manufacturing or design technological
optimization or even today to system
level integration.
So Jeff, now we are in Taiwan and we
know know Taiwan is a center of the chip
production al and also the system
production, right? So could you talk
about the Taiwanese Taiwan chip and the
system pipeline that enable those global
executions for decades? Sure. But maybe
to build on a little bit about what YJ
was talking about, I remember entering
this industry. My first design was an
8086. Less than 50,000 transistors,
3,000 nanometers as we would cast it
today.
286, 150,000 transistors, 1500 nmters.
And now you're putting a 100 billion
transistors on a die at two nanometers.
It's a 3 million times improvement in
density,
750 times smaller. That's what's
enabling technology. That is why we're
able to do and build the things that
we're building today. And then you
couple that I was reflecting on uh my
time here in Taipei. I think I first
came in 1990. So I've been coming for 35
years. Whoa. I grew up in this industry
with many of the tech giants in this on
this island. And I think about the
innovation they've brought, the
manufacturing capability they've
brought, the engineering capacity and
capability. And it's able it's enabling
us to take a desktop market to become a
notebook market, become a server market,
network market, storage market, building
out the fundamental infrastructure that
our company needs, our customers desire
to win in the marketplace. And I think
about what's happening today with the
computational intensity that we're
getting out of the tremendous chips that
are being manufactured. Putting that
together with high throughput, low
latency fabric, taking that with some of
the high-speed disagregated storage
architecture that we have done. You
bundle that together and you build these
enormous computers that are capable of
things again that we didn't think of two
years ago, three years ago that were
possible to do and we're solving huge
problems and we've only scratched the
surface. Yeah. Well, YJ, uh, sounds like
you make the world go round. Uh,
Nvidia's got a lot of great products
coming. We got Blackwell, GB200's, and
then the GB300. Reuben, how are you
collaborating about what's next? How you
shaping the future? We don't want to
steal any thunder from Jensen, but how
are you helping them make it happen?
Well, as uh uh for TSMC, it's important
for us to put the right technology at
the right time, of course, at a cost
that makes sense. and Nvidia one of the
Nvidia's greatest strengths is their
ability and agility to adapt strategy to
keep pace with the ever uh continuous
changing market trend. So throughout
this uh years of collaboration, we have
been able to uh uh develop a reason to
work together, allow us
to response quickly and to cope with the
uh fastm moving market trend.
How about you Jeff? How are you adapting
to move fast on Jensen time? Speed of
light. You mean you've heard that,
haven't you? The speed of light.
Um, look, I I think what's happened is
for us, we've had to rebuild our
engineering
model. The time between new pieces of
technology and its adoption has forced
us to rethink, reinvent our engineering
flows, how we produce the type of energy
density, the GPU density, how we power
and cool these things in record time.
It's changed the way we've innovated.
We're quite excited in our ability to
respond. And it's the deep collaboration
that we have with Nvidia that's enabled
us to do that. Uh the yield was we were
the first to ship a GB200 with
NVL72. That was deep collaboration done
in a very short period of time meeting
the market needs and the resp to respond
to what customers wanted and with Jensen
going we need to get this to the
marketplace. That's what's underway.
It's changed the fundamentals of how we
develop and deliver systems and
solutions to the marketplace. I've seen
you work. This is the fastest I've ever
seen you guys work. So YJ, what are you
excited to see today? What do you want
to hear from Jensen today? Oh,
definitely. What's his outlook on the AI
the new era everybody is looking for.
Yeah, that's critical. Yeah. And we
understand what the future what the
future application future opportunities.
Yes. Yes. Definitely. How about
yourself? What are you looking forward
to hearing from Jensen today? Uh how the
flywheel is going to continue, how it's
going to speed up, the types of
capabilities that will build, and
ultimately the problems that we will be
able to solve and improve mankind,
improve uh human progress. We're
building incredible machines to solve
problems that have never been solved
before. That's pretty powerful. Yeah, I
I mean, I agree. I'm I'm really looking
forward to what the applications are
that he decides to highlight today. I
think the whole industry is looking for
it.
Well, in summary, I think we heard, you
know, a lot of great things here. Um, I
think that, uh, you know, these are two
of the deepest partnerships that Nvidia
has, longest standing partnerships. Uh,
Dell obviously your your history goes
way back into the 80s, meeting Jensen in
the 90s and now adapting throughout, you
know, the whole e the whole GPU journey
is unbelievable and I've seen it. Uh I'm
lucky to have a front row seat and YJ
your company without you the world
doesn't turn on its axis. Uh it's really
clear that everybody what we see today
from Jens wouldn't be possible without
you guys. So you know we look forward to
hearing more about you. Uh also I say as
an American welcome to the US. I know
you already been there a while but we're
looking forward to what you're doing in
Arizona. Yeah. And uh you know I can
come visit anytime. Sure. So uh thanks a
lot gentlemen. just uh you know great
great uh to speak to you. Thanks for
having us. Thank you. Thank you for
having us.
Now we'd like to fast forward to present
day as enduring innovation and
partnerships from the early moments are
now being realized in the AI
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factory. Heat. Heat.
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Let's welcome our next three guests. IA
Chen Jang and Mike Young. I chen the
co-founders and the CEO of Tren
Michael the chairman of Asus and Michael
Young EVP of Quanka Computer and the
president of Ka Cloud Technologies.
Welcome.
Thank you. Great to see you. Great to
see you. And hi Brades.
Thank you so much. Nice to see you. Nice
to meet you here. Yeah, I'm really
excited to speak to you all. Um, Eva,
we'll start with you. No, thank you.
Maybe first. Yeah. Well, I think you're
the only security uh leader um that
we're that we're speaking to this
morning. So, you know, securing AI is a
huge deal. We get asked about it a lot.
I want to learn from you. How are you
doing it? And how are you working with
Nvidia to secure AI? It sounds like a
big job. Wow, that's a big job because
you know if you think organization is
like a person security before we were
just securing your leg your your arms
right but securing AI is you need to go
into the brain you you securing the
brain and the whole nerve system where
the AI is sending the information into
all this nerve system and um if you
think about IT industry it's all about
the computing power transfer the data
into information and generate
intelligent for people to use right so
this whole stack is hardware all these
people muscle to to build all those
hardware and then the I call it the uh
infrastructure software like bios OS
network drivers and then on top of it is
application software HR software finance
software, R&D software, each of them
then manage the data, analyze the data
and generate the functional intelligence
before that was before after AI actually
all the data are coming from the top and
go into the AI model pre-trained
integrated with the whole computing
power and then the application is just
util utilizing all this intelligent
generated from AI to present the data.
Right? Cyber security is a very special
layer. We inserted in between
infrastructure software and the
application software. We protect the
whole information flow between all this
software
and east west traffic information flow.
So we require a huge computing power to
analyze all the data. That's why
starting uh T micro actually starting
2002 we already try to explore and
utilizing the DPU from Nvidia and later
on also using GPA GPU from Nvidia to do
all this security data analysis. But now
with AI is even more collaboration. For
instance, we are using Nemo
finding the Nemo. We are using Nemo to
train our LM specialized cyber security
LM called Cybertron. And then we also
using uh
kud is the data analy pipeline, right?
We use includive to make sure we can
better analyze the data faster and then
we can detect the anomaly using morphy's
uh uh system and then finally we package
all of this including the ARM and our
agent the agentic AI or the agent in NIM
in the NIM fashion and therefore we can
faster deploy all this security into
customers AI infrastructure. So that I
think a very deep collaboration with
Nvidia. Thanks Eva. Yeah, there are a
lot of insight and you know in the
morning I talked to Eva my my brain is
full of the hardware.
Now thanks for explanations now I I
understand the critical of the software.
Yes in the hardware. Yeah,
you are the legend of the
Taiwan technology industry and how is
the ASUS approach to qualities and
reliability and co-engineering with
Nvidia critical to could scale the AI
factory.
Jensen's vision on the AI factory is
indeed the next industrial
revolution to push forward such an
incredible
revolution at live speed like how Jensen
always wants things you know the
importance of quality and reliability.
Today's AI
servers packed with massive numbers of
GPUs to maximize model
flops are pushing state-of-the-art.
High bandwidth, high frequency and high
power design to the
extreme making signal integrity, power
integrity and thermal
reliability absolutely
critical.
Quality and
reliability have been the cornerstone of
ASUS starting from our day one making
motherboards.
We have always encouraged our engineers
to master signal
integrity, power
integrity, thermal
simulation, and computer
architecture. For years, we focused on
sot
state-of-the-art. It's incredibly, you
know, painful. But ASUS engineers love
the
challenge.
Overcoming pain and bugs is a part of
our
DNA.
So we love this kind of challenge and we
really
enjoy the core engineering with Nvidia
which is indeed critical to scaling the
AI factory.
So, do your engineer talk to you, tell
you they like the challenge, right? Oh,
always always. They always love the
challenge. Yeah.
Well, Mike, you've been waiting. Me,
too.
Mike, you've been waiting patiently over
there. Uh, tell us about Quana and QCT's
approach to AI factories. I mean, it's
amazing what you guys are doing. I
remember thinking about you as ODM for
PCs and now you've evolved so much.
Yeah. Yeah. I think uh AI factory is a
very interesting topic and I think uh
from a ODM point of view this is really
something because of uh you know what is
uh AI factory you know I've been you
know also trying my best you know try to
understand more about this from Jensen
and also how to you know collaborate
with my internal team not only just the
hardware but also the software then I
figured it out that AI I factory is a
you know especially QCT AI factory is
designed to turn your vision into
reality and uh you know we actually also
transform your
data your token ying into a practical
and AIdriven intelligence output that is
the token out.
So in short AI factory you can treat it
as a token in token out but I think AI
track AI factory the most important
thing the core thing is AI
infrastructure the infrastructure is
including the server storage network
management tool and even the facility
but not only just that but also you know
we need to work with the open de facto
kind of partnership you know the
ecosystem so companies like uh you know
like Nvidia ML common and also hugging
face and etc you know to support
enterprise with ML ops dev ops and also
multi-modelings and the AI factory is
not only just these two but most
important thing is from the business
point of view you need to fulfill
customers requirement. So from the uh
vertical industry how you fulfill their
use cases with the AI embedded that's
another thing. So we try our best to
integrate the whole thing and speak the
same language with our customers and
provide the best fit solution for them.
So this is I think is what we are
calling the AI factory and from uh you
know quant and QCT's point of view we
we've been facing in this into our
server factory our manufacturing and
then we find out because of omniverse
because of the digital twins you know it
help us improve the labor
cost cut down 50% And uh in terms of
productivity increase 30%. And the most
important thing is when we change the
line do the production planning it also
help us to reduce the time cut in half.
So I think basically this is the target
that we're working on and which is very
much in line with Jensen's idea.
Yep. Right. What I learned from media is
that AI factory actually
is token creations, token factories,
right? Yes. And take TSMC for example,
we all expect TSMC to increase the
capacity, right? So we expect the AFA to
create more token and create more money.
That's how I said it. Business model.
Yes.
Yes. Yeah. Yeah. And yeah, so again the
question for Mike is like do can you
discuss you know how you work with
Nvidia partners to develop the advanced
server platform? Right. Okay. I think
this is a wonderful journey you know I
think I still recall that at the
beginning stage we start you know my
engineering start working with uh Nvidia
uh from the DGX1. I think everybody
knows that's the first GPU server or
Nvidia in 2014 15. So it's been almost
10 years and since then up to 2021
uh we've been working with uh Nvidia for
generations of HGX server machine for
QCT OTS of the shell product and not
only just that but also tier one CSB
customers AI server. Okay. So with this
so we develop
ourself become a good
bridge between Nvidia and
CSPs Nvidia and the enterprises. So this
helps. So with these all these years so
we've been working with uh HGX. Let's
talk a little bit about MGX.
MGX is a very
creative modular design architecture
project which
allow all the customers can catch up
keep up with Nvidia's product strategy
one year reason because with this you
know so now you can see that Nvidia
expedite pull in the schedule of their
plan in direct level scale up to uh
GP200 MVL 72. So with both parties
collaboration and within this project
quant QCT you know we also provide lot
of system design system boards design
and also like a mechanical and also
thermal design. So I think that this is
a wonderful contribution and that we
love the journey with Nvidia and
challenge you right.
Yeah don't even mention about that you
know always you know challenges work
with Nvidia because Jensen I think he's
always very you know how yeah creative
so always we need to keep up with you
know his thinking. Yeah. digital
question here. You mentioned the one
year RI, right? Yeah. Yeah. The first I
heard that I was very surprised because
that's a very fast space, right? So
there so you and also maybe the TSMC and
the others companies vendors must also
face the challenges. Yeah. Try to keep
up with the video. It's a it's a big
challenge for this industry because
usually you know well you know for x86
you know this kind of uh you know uh
product lined up usually takes a longer
time you know so mature
you know but comparing to speed of light
okay
amidia this is different so originally
when Jensen mentioned about you know one
year reason you know everybody
especially you know from my engineering
just say are you sure you want to do
this with all you know all the new
advanced technology that is more
important it's not mature technology but
we take the challenges but you did it
you did yeah we did it you know I think
we challenge
just preparing this pregame show thing
the change speed of Nvidia's staff
worker is amazing
every minute Nvidia just launched a new
chip.
Well, that's great. Johnny, let's turn
to you. Uh, I remember listening to you
20 years ago as a as a player in PCs,
but how did you evolve? How did how did
you get Asus to evolve to be an AI
infrastructure company and now partner
with Nvidia for for these nextgen
systems?
Okay. Our strategy is to go all in on
AI. Okay. At ASUS, we have a
comprehensive AI strategy called
ubiquous AI, incredible possibilities
which aims to integrate artificial
intelligence across all facets of
business from the cloud to the edge to
PCs and end devices like phones and
robots making AI accessible to everyone
everywhere.
We also invest heavily in software
development from the infrastructure
layer to the system software platform
layer including our
vital ASUS
AFS AI fun service, ASUS AI hub,
AIDC, ASUS infrastructure deploy center
and ACC ASUS control center and the
application
layer like smart medical, smart
manufacturing, smart retail and smart
city and so on. Our goal is to provide
an end to
end AI factory service that includes
design, manufacturing and service. Yeah.
Thanks to the national level Taiwania
supercomputer
project which we took the major
responsibility for we have establish a
full spectrum of capabilities from
hardware to software to support Nvidia's
magnificent AI factory vision. Beyond
that, we've established global server
manufacturing facilities at major global
locations to further shorten the supply
chain for our UI customers.
One of our unique strengths is that we
have over
2,200 locations globally to serve
customers, including
tailormade SLA endto end solution
services and work closely with major
vendors and partners worldwide. Our
successful cases cover
Taiwan, Japan,
Korea, India, US, Europe, Middle East,
and many countries in Southeast Asia.
Thanks, Johnny. Thank you. Yeah, again,
a lot of insight here. Yeah, thank you.
And IA the next questions is important
as we are now in GTC Taipei at Computex
Taiwan right so I believe Tren Michael
is a Taiwan based company and could you
share us what's a unique advantage come
from being a Taiwan based company well
actually uh Tren Micro is the only
global software company that is
originated from Asia. We are the largest
one that is originated from Asia and um
so software is the part that we are very
unique in Taiwan. We are so famous with
all this hardware manufacturer TSMC and
all these muscle guys and
but last year's GTC uh actually last
year's computer text when Jensen shows
that the map of uh the supply chain and
the little Taiwan in there. Try micro
was the logo underneath there and we
were the only software company. When I
saw that map, I my my tear almost come
down, you know. It's so I understand
heartbeating.
So I think this time the AI
security AI factory is actually
originated from the software factory.
You know, some last time uh Jensen was
uh talking about this AI factory and he
he say uh he call all the software
engineers as the software factory
worker. I I was saying oh thank you very
much for calling me like I thought I'm
the white collar worker now I'm the
all blackheads right but that's I think
is what AI factory means right if you
transform from software factory to AI
factory this whole ecosystem is going to
change I believe uh Taiwan should play
an even bigger role in the whole IT
industry not just the hardware computing
power um manufacturing but the
integration of software hardware
together to solve customers AI uh
question and problem infrastructure new
factory concept right that's the new
factory concept before hardware company
like Asus they pay software they they
pay Microsoft a lots of money to to
bundle this operation rating system,
right? The margin from uh I I've been
joking but truthfully I think if if
Jensen can convince Trump that all the
software worker is actually
manufacturing worker then Trump's dream
of like moving manufacturing back to us
you already done right software worker
are factory manufacturing workers right
so so overall I just want to say I
believe this uh AI factory concept will
change the whole ecosystem of it and
then working together with the computing
power and the software application.
Yeah. Then we can provide the best IT
infrastructure AI infrastructure for the
whole world.
How are you? Nice to see you. Hey, you
guys you guys look good on TV. Yeah, you
guys are you're you're like broadcasted
to this giant movie theater.
You guys are gigantic. Yeah, this is a
very professional studio. It is a
professional studio for professionals.
We have partner here. You are going to
sing solo in the in the show. No, I I
was I was honored to watch out for you.
So So this is what happened last time.
This is what happened last night. So, so
it takes two hours at least, maybe three
hours to seat all the people, right?
Because they've been waiting in line for
hours. Yes. And it takes a long time
this. And so we came up with a good
idea. Let's do a pregame show. Yeah. And
a pregame show of industry experts just
like NFL football. They're all, you
know, they're all previous, they're all
coaches and Right. Thank you. Our honor.
Yeah. And so it's a it's a pregame show
of experts. And this is what happened.
So after
GTC, they asked all the audience, they
enjoy the pregame show more than the
keynote. Come on. I don't know about
you.
Enjoy your Dennis delivery.
They want to know your inside. So
anyhow, this year. Anyhow, I'm so happy
you guys are here to do this. Thank you.
All right. Finish your job. Thank you.
Thank you very much. I'll do I'll do my
job. See you in a bit. You got somewhere
to go. Yes. Wow. What a big surprise.
Yeah. What a big surprise. How can he
have so much time bumping here? Super.
What do you think about that, Mike? Oh.
Oh. You know, Jensen is always a big
surprise to us. Not only just uh from
the
technology you know product but also the
business model as you he just mentioned
about you know AI factory you know it
turn the technology become kind of
monetization
I think this is quite impressive
yeah always very creative
innovative that's how I know him yeah a
true leader in every way
what what are you looking forward to
seeing today Johnny in summary.
Okay. I think one one thing I would also
like to take this opportunity to
highlight is that recently people may
have
misinterpreted you know the impact of
deepsek. Yeah. My belief is that you
know it also it actually echoes Jensen's
vision of AI factory. Yeah. It further
popularizes intelligence manufacturing.
I jokingly called it, you know, the poor
man's Chinese kung fu.
We have been watching them for more than
one year. Uh, since the the publication
of their first MA paper, which we were
very impressed by and then the
following, you know, uh, R1, yeah, and
distillation are all very impressive and
solid, which also enables, you know,
small models. to blossom like wild
flowers. Yes. Imagine one day the world
will be full of AI brains. Yes. Yeah.
That come from that come in different
forms and you know uh and sizes
including super big, medium, small and
even tiny from the cloud to the edge.
Edge. Yes. To PCs and ant devices. Yep.
like phones and robots. Yeah. And I we
are all very very excited, you know.
What did Jensen inspire you in closing
to say? Um well I actually will say last
time he talked a lot about sovereign AI
and when uh Tanker actually is very big
in Europe and in AMIA all the countries
the government sector and that is the
strong demand that I'm seeing that
sovereign AI and just like Johnny say uh
every country will want their own brand
right and then every enterprise will
have their domain knowledge their IP in
their own brand.
So, right, that's what what we uh
usually say. So, I think what uh Jensen
inspiring me and a lot of the software
people is thinking about all this AI is
not just one big open AI, right? Is
every every enterprise, every country
will have their own AI new universe.
Yes. Well, uh thanks so much. Thanks. A
lot of great comments out of you, out of
you all from the security side all the
way to the AI factories, these great
partners. Thanks a lot for for joining
us. Thank you. Thank you. Look forward
to talking a lot more in the future.
Thank you very much. So, as a reminder
to our viewers, Jensen's keynote is
coming up at the top of the hour, but
before that, let's take a look at how
Taiwanese companies and Nvidia together
are advancing physical AI to the next
frontier. Heat.
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We're so excited to discuss the world of
robotics with Scott Wong, COO of Techman
Robot, a division of Quant, who helps
companies develop robots. We also have
Dr. Peter Pang, director of Delta
Electronics Robotics and Smart
Manufacturing Divisions. And finally,
Bran Chang, chairman and CEO of Foxcon
Industrial Internet. Thanks, gentlemen.
Thank you. Good morning. Thank you.
Morning.
Hi, Scott. Welcome. Yeah. Um, I have a
question. We know the robots in your
Tech Men has a collaborated robot we
call cobot, right? So, it's vision based
robot, right? Could you help tell us
about what the role did you see the
Tekken man playing in the next wave of
intelligence manufacturing especially in
Taiwan and um any practical example use
case you can share with us? Yes and
actually we how say we start cobalt
development
around 13 years ago and actually the
cobalt we have a vision embedded. So in
the beginning we think the
vision capability is must to have for
the cor robot. So we not not just
provide the cover the motion only. So
for example the the vision here we begin
and it's native. So the capability for a
robot is must to have. So in that timing
we provide the house smart robot robot
cor robot for our customer we the
differentiation compared with industrial
robot is a gap. So because traa what
they have the sensing only the motor
angle they have in chova because just
they do the some movement one point to
another point. So the computing power
for the robot right industrial robot
just motion only system of degree of
freedom. So the computing is very easy
but once the the intelligent come the
vision is most important for the loa
like a human right we can uh we can
understand the environment we can
reasoning we can planning what we would
like to do that's why we have this
capability most important is the vision
so 13 years ago we think is must have if
compare the for a while I think we are
very few company is how say vision is
building in our uh robot so in that
timing so we uh that's a long few few
years we cope with Taiwan I say
manufacturer company yep yeah for
example semiconductor mhm and
electronics even CNC
machinery those
manufacturer and what they need is a
intelligent solution for them. Why they
needed a intelligent? Because if we just
take one uh object from one point to
another point like the brain work to do
that things but we we have the vision.
So in their for example for for for CNC
in their production their object come
their the
object don't need to fix in one precise
position because our vision we can do
positioning compensate the variation and
the pick and after how say
process and we also can check the the
quality maybe some scratch
And the AI function we are wrong for
sure. We also few house
uh corrupt robot or industrial robot the
control bus we embedded how
it GPU inside. So we can do uh AI
inference in our control bus. So like
age computing. I see. So that means the
robot can do the calvation by itself and
also can recognize the image and also
can make some intelligence movement by
itself right and with the box beside
below embedded with Nvidia GPU. Yes. It
can do some high level. Yeah. Language
model something right. Yes. Yeah. So
today you bring the robot. Is that the
real robot or just the mini one? Sure.
It's it's a it's a toy but Okay. Okay.
our the technobizer. Yeah, I think it's
easy for I understand. Yeah, you you
understand what's the difference because
you can see there the the vision here.
Yeah. Yeah. Well, thanks. Uh, hey Peter,
can you talk about your collaboration
between Delta and Nvidia? Maybe focus on
the integration of your Debot series of
robots with Nvidia's omniverse. Sure, of
course. Uh actually we are producing a
lot of different kind of products for
data center related of course included
ambidia and uh we are building the power
modules for the data centers related but
our production line didn't really can be
optimized or remote control quality so
easily yet we have the chance to
cooperate with Nvidia and based on the
only
and combine with our we called machine
and robot twin that can based on our age
computing connecting our machine and
robot immediately real timely return the
necessary critical parameters and back
to remote for example our production
line in Thailand in somewhere else in
the world but we can remote monitoring
measuring and even calibrate like Scott
just mentioned the robotics while the
machine have some strange things
happened we can remote calibrate based
on the omniverse thanks to the omniverse
and uh we have the beginning from the
real to scene we have the real
production line but together with
universe we becomes better and that is
not enough people need we have much more
we need to have much more production
productivity Like Jensen just shared
with us the day before yesterday
mentioned about people used to consider
cost but now more more and more
productivities but from our side we need
to be balanced. So for the new
production line can we do from seem to
real or not? Can we minimize
the unnecessary waste as much as
possible? So we also cooperate to based
on the oniverse to do the virtual design
even from the very beginning of the
product design and then later on for the
related machine robotics uh together
with the necessary process uh technology
to make the products correct and make
the customer satisfied. So based on onus
again we do from sim to real that means
we don't need to really build the
production line so soon but we can make
sure everything that almost like the
reality and minimize the trial and error
after. So we cooperate with a media so
closely from real to seam and seam to
real. Okay. So this is what we have done
and we will continuous do not only for
the robots but machine process the whole
production line and actually this
afternoon we will show the whole
factories simulation as well.
Thanks. Well hey Brand great to see you.
Uh I mean you're you're a company that
we look at in our work very closely from
your work with you know iPhones to
smartphones to everything but this
robotics initiative is really amazing
and I think it needs more coverage. I
was wondering you know how did you how
did FII and Nvidia first start working
together and collaborating? Okay so
probably people know we are running lots
of manufacturing for the
electronics. So we have a more than the
entire Fosskan group have more than 200
chemists over the world.
So just like what uh Jensen mentioned
the evolution trend of uh uh AI from
perceive AI to generative AI to agentic
AI even up to physical AI we gradually
follow on this. So back to 2016 we built
the HPC with Nvidia solution for medical
research. You know we do not only make
it as smart manufacturing but also like
me medical research to help something
like a medical car simulation like 3D
rendering in terms of tumor research.
You know the phase two we engage with
media to build a cluster of a V 100 in
Wisconsin. Probably some of people knows
that we have a very big campus in
Wisconsin to to produce the electronics
product over there which we leverage the
the machine learning and start to use a
lot of tools but back to 2023 when GI is
booming was booming so we start to look
at that uh how to leverage the you know
the rapids under which under the the
isac you know So you know the complexity
of material moving on the workshop is
very complicated. So how you going to
use AI? So we do train the AI model to
move the material and send a signal to
the material tower also correlated you
know to the to the AGV to the AMR to the
robotics. So actually we make a
ecosystem about this you know to to
drive the material handling and at the
end the impact is uh uh like we improve
the unit per hour per person about
73%. With this AI models with AGV AMR
together we reduce the delivery cycle
time about 25%. Whoa.
Yeah. And uh more than that at the worst
we are thinking how to raise up
the the you know the automation level
because in a lot of manufacturing
process if you look at that some you
really can do the automation and put the
low bodies inside but for some material
maybe very soft very flexible then you
need more something more beyond than
lower arm or AMR AGV which maybe you
need humanoid robots.
So we have studied on this you know to
put into the production line into
simulate process and uh toward like
implement like a physical AI eventually.
So we can res resolve all these issues
and really make entire production fully
automated.
So with lease as example you know I
think I believe a lots of company
especially Taiwanese Asian company like
to invest in Vietnam in this era right
in this decade lot of people think about
that in Vietnam maybe the labor costs
are cheaper they have many people
actually she's
wrong Vietnam probably their population
lesser than 100 million compared to
China is about nothing so actually the
automation level we have in Vienna is
very high you know why because they
don't have so many technician which can
repair the machine can optimize the
parameters right can you know coordinate
the layout and so on so we implement AI
model we implement technologies to make
it easier then uh how you going to
enlarge this how you going to enlarge
this so we use omiverse so back to
Vietnam And the factory we have in
Taiwan. You can see that in
2024 both our factory in in Taiwan and
we may got certified by World Economic
Forum as a lighthouse factory. So Golash
factory is not just automation but also
come with a lot of agentic AI
application already you know and uh the
one the server factory we have in Taiwan
is a is the first one in the world for
the server you know as a lighthouse
factory so going forward just like Dr. P
said that we leverage Nvidia work very
closely on obverse. How you going to
reduce your cycle time? How you going to
drive high accuracy, high efficiency,
high consistency for your operation?
When we have more than 200 campuses for
the same product on
reverse with reverse with the isac
plform and video have we work on
robotics you know then also lots of uh
uh m uh uh uh uh training then we can
keep moving forward to duplicate then we
can do simulation we can do validation
we can do decision making at the end we
measure everything before we deployment
you're pretty Good omniverse salesman by
the way. Oh really? Because I'm doing
that. I have a whole team whole bunch of
team doing this because got it. The
thing is come with we face challenge
before now we see the solution. So we
need to adopt invented solution to
resolve the all issue we have right. So
we can overcome. Yeah. So we can
overcome the challenges coming along the
way. Yeah. Thanks a lot of good insight
and I always like to hear about the use
cases and you do bring a lot of use use
cases. Yeah. And next question is to
Peter. I think we have uh some
discussion yesterday or a few days ago,
right? So could you tell us how is the
partnership with Nvidia simulation
accuracy and also help to accelerate the
development of robust solutions? Of
course. Sure. just right after the brand
just mentioned. Uh we are so pleased and
thanks to the Nvidia related uh USD and
uh that so wonderful universal scenery
descript all different kind of tools
that we are using for the old times but
nowadays all connect together and just
like we just discussed how Isaxim can
help us. How is ice can help us? For
example, we do the kinematics of the
robots for a long times but that is not
enough. It must come comp uh integrate
with the necessary critical process who
really makes the product come true
together and again together with
Omniverse not only is SIM but also Isac
gym that we can pair processing much
speeder because pair processing and the
speed can be double and double and also
one very critical important secret is
can we do the machine for producing the
product at the beginning not wait until
the product prototype almost complete
that could be too late already. So we
are appreciating the oniverse surprise
award foundation model and that the
cucurus can support multi-user at the
same time in the same space and can
duplicate to the other. For example,
when you are design product, maybe you
are too busy, no time, but we can see
what you are doing and then we can
consider ah okay we know what Brady is
thinking right now. So we have to match
synchronized cooperate concurrent
engineering at the same time. So mention
about again what uh John Jensen just
mentioned the cost is very important the
productivity is important and also the
cycle time is very important and we are
wondering if we can secure the quality
that means what do the rising right at
the first time so if we can do the job
well at the beginning together
synchronized it's idea before but
nowadays thanks to only we have the
chance to do it together at beginning
then we can synchronize from time to
time to make the unnecessary waste down
to the minimum. So how about the speed
must be very fast right? Yeah. Yeah. The
world is changing efficiency serations
though so we need to be be flexible and
quick. So about for example our
company's robot I start uh my first job
40 years ago for robots very very old
time and I start from industrial robot
corab robot our depot cor robot is not
only a robot but much more important
it's a solutions that can really solve
the end customers problem not only
motions but process and thanks again to
Omniverse the simulations becomes much
more real. You mentioned the accuracy.
How can we do it? Not only kinematics
but the dynamics. How about using the
skin, the material, the all kinds of
physical that we cannot identify so
clear before. And also at the same time
we used to do a lot of process
simulation for example uh by using uh
anis. Nowadays that all can be connected
with oliverse or even just do it in
oliverse. So a lot of challenge coming
but still I believe together with
omniverse we can conquer so many things
not only the machine not not only the
the production line but the whole
factories.
Just uh quickly Scott wanted to ask you
one more question. Um okay you know
robots used to follow scripts. Yes. Now
they adapt and learn in the field, go
around and learn. Um, how did you deal
with that in work in industrial robots?
How did you how did your team adapt and
and work with that in the industrial
setting? Yes, I think the how say in the
for the robar right actually is uh some
challenge we need to solve and for
example the uh for sure the smart robot
is needed for the and customer but how
easy for the uh engineer they can how
say imp implement the solution in their
path 9 currently in automation
uh industry actually is still a gap. So
we uh try to provide a very easy to use
solution for our uh customer and our
partners. So uh for example in the
tradition right just mentioned is only
uh the angle of the motor we have they
have but now the vision vision image is
come and the force sense feedback it
also have and also AI power is come and
the next step is so the very uh powerful
function how engineer can what they can
Writing the call I think is another good
thing for them. So it's take a lot of
time. So what we are doing is the first
thing is we first hardware hardware
hardware is how say easy ready to go.
What what I mean ready to go. So it mean
once the robot right mean they have the
the robot and we also provide the
autofocus camera in our system. So they
can uh how say for position and one is a
sensor inside four sensor inside. So
then all of so they what they have is
how say for hardware really one platform
and the second and the second sense is
the software. Yeah. Well we're almost
out of time but Brand let's start with
you wanted wanted to see what you're
excited that maybe Jensen could say
today. what are you excited about? We'll
go down the line. Um we really
appreciate you being here.
Yeah, I think
uh this is AI era very important. So
back to us when we are running this such
scale of global operation we do need to
leverage the new technology Peter
mentioned verse Scott mentioned about
robots. So you look at that the gen AI
essentially require data require
computing power require algorithm or AI
model. So as uh the leading company for
smart manufacturing network I think for
group is driving uh we collect all kind
of manufacturing data you know that
right? So second thing is we built
gradually a lots of computing power from
Kong you know now we have H100 H 200 all
implement there then move to Wisconsin
we have a V 100 which was built in 2020
and also we have the commuting power in
China with H20 then we are going to
build we already built the
the GB200 you know forex in Kawong for
the R&D purpose So going forward we got
to even build more like uh you know I
think the chairman Yang Leo Foskan group
mentioned that we're going to build 64
racks in Ken as the initial one and
moving forward probably you heard about
that first group invest a lot in Houston
we're going to build more than more more
the computing power with GB 200 300 in
Houston to help us out so with lease
then we start to run the AI model
algorithm how we going to make it again
omniverse
Got it. On reverse. And any quick words,
Peter? Oh, yes. I I really want to share
with everybody uh omniverse perception
sensing capability really makes
omniverse not just people thinking
virtual side but connect to a real site
very closely and from the uh what we try
to challenge uh overcome for example the
computation powers that we require from
the the tra traditional robot to corrupt
robot cognitive robot with sensing like
Scott mentioned and
also humanoid robot like why because the
automation last mile still using a lot
of human operations with high skill that
still needs a lot of help but thanks to
again there is a very high degree of
freedom human models that can really
helpful for this so again thanks to uh
Nvidia's computation powers we can do
not only the cloud but also the
but also embodied that not only agentic
but also physical AI and thanks to
everybody again hope we can fight for a
better future. Thank you. Great. Thanks
a lot. Thank yeah go ahead. So actually
you know the next
generation in the future for the coba
right house how say reasoning and
planning is very important now it's the
house so currently we use the oniverse
the cosmos the se so the foundation
model like the k motion like that that's
the foundation model and we are use and
we also generate the genetic data SMG
now we are trying and we uh modified the
AI model got it currently. So we hope in
near future we will have the more
capability for for example reasoning and
planning for the co. I think you will. I
think you will. Thanks a lot. Thanks to
all of you for joining us. That was
great.
Well, what a great session. So uh Brady,
you know, you're a local uh AI expert in
Foundry. What did you think about what
was going on uh what what you heard
today? Yeah, I think it's a critical
point especially in Taiwan because we
have we are the center of the chip
productions and also assistant
productions and we a lot of robot
vendors are working with Nvidia. So I
think it's a good opportunity for
Taiwanese companies to start in the
robotics industry. Yeah.
And Ben, how about you being the
respected AI research analyst in the
world of finance? What stood out to you?
I think, you know, Brady, I I I'm really
impressed by how fast people are moving
in Taiwan, all these partners, and what
it takes from Nvidia's side to integrate
all these partners, manage all these
relationships and move at this speed and
then bring along all these partners who
are moving really fast as well. Um, you
can see it with Dell and Asus and Quanta
and uh, all all the folks we spoke to
are moving so fast. I I've never seen it
like this in order to keep up with
Jensen's speed of light and it's it's
amazing and I'm really looking forward
to what he says today and I think this
community here in Taiwan is I I can feel
it after being here a few days. It's so
strong in terms of, you know, the pride
in what Nvidia is doing and the the
desire to work with this company. Um
it's very impressive and uh I think that
you know today um what is really clear
is that uh he's a very strong ecosystem
here in Taiwan and both globally and
everybody's looking forward to what he
has to say to drive the industry
forward. We were lucky enough to hear a
lot about robotics today which is one of
the next frontiers but uh there's a lot
of other things I think he's going to
say and it's going to pull uh this whole
uh this whole island forward and it's
really exciting to see. Yes. So, I
wanted to also just say thank you all
for joining us here at NVIDIA GTC Live
at Computex. The countdown is on to
Jensen's keynote. It's coming up really
soon. And as you see, people are still
filing in. So, we got to get to our
seats and uh Brady and I got to get
moving. Thanks for watching. I can't
wait to see the keynote from Jensen.
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